Why do i need cpc

Comment: we run a 7. Four are currently able and insured to drive the vehicle. The goods carried are our own for sale, but putting 4 drivers through 35 hours of training for about 30 hours each a year of driving is crazy. What is the definition of a 'professional' driver?

Comment: As a livestock farmer with one 11 tonne wagon used for moving stock between our own farms and to market the CPC rule seems ridiculous. It is clearly designed for professional drivers and so farmers should be exempt. We face putting 3 drivers through the training. Would the government prefer us to sell our wagon and use a pickup and trailer which would always be overweight?

Comment: We have a 44 tonne lorry which is only used to pick up feed from a mill 12 miles away. Reading the conditions for exemption, I take it we are exempt because the driver is my chicken manager who "uses the materials in the course of his work" and the driving is not his principal activity, which is managing the chickens. The goods that he is collecting are not directly for sale. The problem is that everyone we speak to says that he has to do the extra training, but I cannot see why.

Maybe ours will be the court case needed to clarify the situation! Comment: The CPC system doesn't make sense. There are 5 syllabuses covered in the CPC training, however I have just learnt you don't need to do 5 different modules to complete your 35hours of training. You can do one module 5 times to make up your 35hours.

Now to me this is not structured training and makes a mockery of the whole concept of CPC training. So this has become apparent it is only a money making scheme from DVSA. Comment: it is just another government scam to fill the coffers.. Comment: My login will be performed tomorrow and updates on my CPC training. Over chiuffedpresently tohave been offered this position and just want to get module one passed hopefully successfully by Wednesday, one day at a time.

Plenty of listening must be done and soaking in the information. Website very easy to understand and great video footage for easier explanations and litigation superb, case study information harder to find, finding practicing the theory test and hazard perception over and over again easier now, just want to perform it under test conditions to get over using the nerves to concentrate better over and done with. Will login using drivers license tomorrow.

Not doing a political statement tonight but thank you op - all I can say there is Ive been listening to Radio4 for too long, and the Farmer weekly half hour is always good, for points of view,havent heard and up roar anywhere for CPC 35 hour training and off the bat I think change and any almost, free training is positive.

Laws passed in the commons are always debated to almost death and so far the queens outlived many, many parliamentary people.

Just a thought, have to walk for the bus to work sooner than I thought now. Comment: Any commercial use if only 1 hr needs cpc driver.

Comment: ive recently joined a company which has a class1 tipper trailer which I have never operated other driver does this job at pres if I was to do tipper training would this be considered as part of the CPC training and if so how many hours would it stand for. Comment: I completed my 35 hours training for my cpc I also completed extra courses to help me for the next five years why are these invalid.

The club members contribute to the costs of the transport from annual membership subscriptions. Even if the club is run on a not-for-profit basis, the haulier or other pigeon racing club transporting the pigeons would need:.

This is because your main activity is not driving. A driver is a mobile lorry fitter. This is because the vehicle is carrying material or equipment for their use on-site.

Example 2: self-employed bricklayer A self-employed bricklayer drives their lorry to a building site with a load of bricks. They unload the bricks and use them in the construction of a house. They do not need Driver CPC.

Example 3: power generator fixed to the bed of a vehicle A driver drives a lorry with a power generator fixed to the bed of the vehicle, but driving is not their main activity. They drive to road maintenance sites where the generator is used to power site equipment. They need Driver CPC, even though the driving takes up a small amount of their working time. Example 5: auctioneer transporting furniture for auction An employee of an auctioneer transports some furniture to sell at an auction house around once a month.

Example 6: contractor driving a lorry to repair fences around a town centre A contractor drives a lorry on public roads around a town centre periodically to repair fences. The vehicle carries the tools and materials they need to make these repairs. Example 7: employee transporting colleagues An employee of a firm based on an out-of-town industrial estate drives a minibus with a D1 driving licence twice a day to take colleagues from the local town to and from their place of work.

Example 8: mobile crane operator A mobile crane operator drives the vehicle with the crane to a building site, where they operate the crane to help build a new factory.

They do not need Driver CPC because their main activity is not driving. They do need Driver CPC because their main activity is driving. Example maintenance worker driving a lorry with tools and equipment A maintenance worker drives a lorry containing tools and equipment to buildings where they will work for a full day maintaining plant and other building services. Example 3: fisheries employee transporting fish A fisheries employee drives a small lorry to a harbour to collect the fish caught that day, and transport them to a refrigeration unit.

They carry equipment for use in this work. You do not need Driver CPC if you meet all of these conditions:. Example 1: mechanic moving empty buses between depots A mechanic employed by a local bus company moves empty buses between depots in the local area. Example 2: workshop manager occasionally delivering empty trailers A workshop manager for a road haulier occasionally provides driving cover, delivering empty trailers to depots across the country.

They need Driver CPC, even though driving is not their main activity. They are not carrying goods and are not driving for an exempted occupation. As part of their duties, they deliver to and collect from customers in the local area. Example 4: a mechanic who occasionally drives lorries A mechanic occasionally drives lorries as part of their work. You do not need Driver CPC to drive vehicles to and from pre-booked appointments at official testing centres.

Example A driver is employed as a mechanic by a bus operator. In other words, ensuring that the training is done properly, and that the system is not exploited. The DVSA can revoke training hours if they find that they have not been delivered correctly. For example, because the training centre was not compliant or because a driver repeated a course several times in quick succession just to make up the correct number of hours.

According to the recent presentation, in the past year around training hours were revoked, and around 50 drivers lost their DQC, impacting operations for their employers. One proposed way to tackle this is a voluntary register of Driver CPC trainers. Driver CPC is intended to professionalise the driving industry and that will continue. In their presentation at Talent in Logistics , DVSA revealed that they will be providing some course content tools for trainers to use if required.